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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dorkandbeans.com/start-all-the-illegal-downloading-of-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 12:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The record companys have been ripping people off for generations since the compact disc era, charging kids an absurd amount of money per audio cd.  The record company would also profit for lost, stolen, cracked, scratched and re-bought CDs.  Now downloading has evened out the playing field .  If a record sucks I dont have to buy it and find out how much it sucks.  I could now just purchase albums of good, favorite artists to pay support and document a well deserved credit.   Anyway, im still going to buy really great music to show love, even if I heard all the tracks 5 million times.  


FU Metallica,  file sharing is not what&#039;s making you poor, your just old and washed up and lost your appeal and youv&#039;e been selling out for much to long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The record companys have been ripping people off for generations since the compact disc era, charging kids an absurd amount of money per audio cd.  The record company would also profit for lost, stolen, cracked, scratched and re-bought CDs.  Now downloading has evened out the playing field .  If a record sucks I dont have to buy it and find out how much it sucks.  I could now just purchase albums of good, favorite artists to pay support and document a well deserved credit.   Anyway, im still going to buy really great music to show love, even if I heard all the tracks 5 million times.  </p>
<p>FU Metallica,  file sharing is not what&#8217;s making you poor, your just old and washed up and lost your appeal and youv&#8217;e been selling out for much to long.</p>
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		<title>By: app</title>
		<link>http://dorkandbeans.com/start-all-the-illegal-downloading-of-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>app</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Musical:

Take a look at bandcamp.com. They make it much easier to do what I said. Also, upload to last.fm and make at least 1 track a free download so people can grab the URL and promote your stuff for you on blip.fm (I promote a lot of independent stuff on blip, and that last.fm free download is usually the way I do it, linking to the bandcamp page)

Look me up on last.fm (app103) if you need a little help and more info. 

Self producing, promoting, and marketing isn&#039;t easy...it&#039;s a lot of work...but it can be done, and it will put you in touch with your fans, which you can enlist their help to spread the word.

Good luck.</description>
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<p>Take a look at bandcamp.com. They make it much easier to do what I said. Also, upload to last.fm and make at least 1 track a free download so people can grab the URL and promote your stuff for you on blip.fm (I promote a lot of independent stuff on blip, and that last.fm free download is usually the way I do it, linking to the bandcamp page)</p>
<p>Look me up on last.fm (app103) if you need a little help and more info. </p>
<p>Self producing, promoting, and marketing isn&#8217;t easy&#8230;it&#8217;s a lot of work&#8230;but it can be done, and it will put you in touch with your fans, which you can enlist their help to spread the word.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Musical Instruments Brass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musical Instruments Brass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@app... really well put. I really like your position. I produce original music with a partner and we&#039;re going to self-market. I really like your idea of &quot;give it away and let the fans decide how much it is worth to them and how much they want to pay for it.&quot; I hadn&#039;t thought of doing that so now I am. It makes sense. We hope lots of people download are songs for free, like what they hear and then share it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@app&#8230; really well put. I really like your position. I produce original music with a partner and we&#8217;re going to self-market. I really like your idea of &#8220;give it away and let the fans decide how much it is worth to them and how much they want to pay for it.&#8221; I hadn&#8217;t thought of doing that so now I am. It makes sense. We hope lots of people download are songs for free, like what they hear and then share it.</p>
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		<title>By: Arabic Music</title>
		<link>http://dorkandbeans.com/start-all-the-illegal-downloading-of-music/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Arabic Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>easiest way to stop piracy music is to give it away and let the fans decide how much it is worth to them and how much they want to pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>easiest way to stop piracy music is to give it away and let the fans decide how much it is worth to them and how much they want to pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: app</title>
		<link>http://dorkandbeans.com/start-all-the-illegal-downloading-of-music/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>app</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a developer of donationware, I can tell you that the easiest way to stop piracy of both software &amp; music is to give it away and let the fans decide how much it is worth to them and how much they want to pay for it.

I am one of those people that listens to and promotes free legal music downloads, especially from independent artists. And I love CC licensed music that comes with the right to share.

There are a great many artists that are embracing the idea of free downloads. And more and more are moving into the area of self marketing, cutting out the middle man that the RIAA is, and that&#039;s what the RIAA doesn&#039;t like.

They want to monopolize the music industry till the end of time. They want control and a piece of the pie from every artist that records a song. In fact, they want a bigger piece of the pie than the artist gets.

They have a long history of cheating artists out of their fair share, and bullying everyone...from fans, to retailers, to radio stations, to artists. Do a little research into the plight of the average African-American artist from the 50&#039;s &amp; 60&#039;s and how most ended up broke, but the labels ended up filthy rich off their sweat. They used to use Mafia tactics, where they negotiated contracts with these artists with a baseball bat...literally.


If you want to see real change in the music industry, and artists finally making the money they deserve, stay away from handing money to the RIAA. Don&#039;t buy anything from their labels. Contact the artist and ask him if he has a paypal link and offer to make a direct donation. Then go steal his music with a clean conscience. If you can&#039;t do that, then go see a concert and make sure you come home with some merchandise like a t-shirt.

Only purchase a CD from non-RIAA labels. You can find out who is who at &lt;a href=&quot;http://riaaradar.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;riaaradar.com&lt;/a&gt;. They even have a mobile version of their site, so you can check while you are in line at the music store.

apps last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/cranialsoup/~3/307270373/win-microsoft-visual-studio-team-suite.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Win a Microsoft Visual Studio Team Suite Package Worth Over $10,000&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a developer of donationware, I can tell you that the easiest way to stop piracy of both software &amp; music is to give it away and let the fans decide how much it is worth to them and how much they want to pay for it.</p>
<p>I am one of those people that listens to and promotes free legal music downloads, especially from independent artists. And I love CC licensed music that comes with the right to share.</p>
<p>There are a great many artists that are embracing the idea of free downloads. And more and more are moving into the area of self marketing, cutting out the middle man that the RIAA is, and that&#8217;s what the RIAA doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>They want to monopolize the music industry till the end of time. They want control and a piece of the pie from every artist that records a song. In fact, they want a bigger piece of the pie than the artist gets.</p>
<p>They have a long history of cheating artists out of their fair share, and bullying everyone&#8230;from fans, to retailers, to radio stations, to artists. Do a little research into the plight of the average African-American artist from the 50&#8242;s &amp; 60&#8242;s and how most ended up broke, but the labels ended up filthy rich off their sweat. They used to use Mafia tactics, where they negotiated contracts with these artists with a baseball bat&#8230;literally.</p>
<p>If you want to see real change in the music industry, and artists finally making the money they deserve, stay away from handing money to the RIAA. Don&#8217;t buy anything from their labels. Contact the artist and ask him if he has a paypal link and offer to make a direct donation. Then go steal his music with a clean conscience. If you can&#8217;t do that, then go see a concert and make sure you come home with some merchandise like a t-shirt.</p>
<p>Only purchase a CD from non-RIAA labels. You can find out who is who at <a href="http://riaaradar.com" rel="nofollow">riaaradar.com</a>. They even have a mobile version of their site, so you can check while you are in line at the music store.</p>
<p>apps last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/cranialsoup/~3/307270373/win-microsoft-visual-studio-team-suite.html" rel="nofollow">Win a Microsoft Visual Studio Team Suite Package Worth Over $10,000</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://dorkandbeans.com/start-all-the-illegal-downloading-of-music/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I&#039;m all up for doing my part and buying an album. Everyone loves to look over to their shelf of music and dream of one day having a collection that makes the Smithsonian phone up and ask to borrow it. That being said, I&#039;m sure as hell not willing to pay 25 dollars for crap music that won&#039;t be remebered in two months. If music companies focus on producing music that made us WANT to buy the cd, then everyone would be happier. Untill then ARRRRGGGGG I&#039;ll be downloading a sweet booty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I&#8217;m all up for doing my part and buying an album. Everyone loves to look over to their shelf of music and dream of one day having a collection that makes the Smithsonian phone up and ask to borrow it. That being said, I&#8217;m sure as hell not willing to pay 25 dollars for crap music that won&#8217;t be remebered in two months. If music companies focus on producing music that made us WANT to buy the cd, then everyone would be happier. Untill then ARRRRGGGGG I&#8217;ll be downloading a sweet booty!</p>
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		<title>By: The Duck</title>
		<link>http://dorkandbeans.com/start-all-the-illegal-downloading-of-music/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>The Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im gonna go with a really hardline aproach to this one. Given the digital era we live in today, where practicly anyone with half a brain, and a decent computer can rip CDs, and DVDs and all that shit..... if you dont want people to share their digital media : DONT FUCKING RECORD IT. Thats realy the only way it will ever stop the illegal trade om digital media. You dont want people to have illegal/FREE copies of your new movie ??... Too bad for you. Dont make movies anymore. Dont want people to have illegal/FREE copies of your new album ?? Again ... too bad. 

Im with you The White. If you want to be making money in the music biz.... its time to try something else. Cuz the Average Joe, like myself, doesnt give a crap about how much less money the bands and their superiors or subordiantes are getting. WE want to save OUR money. IF that means I have to illegaly DL music, and other such things.... Ill do it. And I wont feel the least bit bad about it.

Another thing.... if a band gets into the biz just to become super rich... its likely not a band Id be interested in anyhow. So again..... FUCKEM !!

The Duck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im gonna go with a really hardline aproach to this one. Given the digital era we live in today, where practicly anyone with half a brain, and a decent computer can rip CDs, and DVDs and all that shit&#8230;.. if you dont want people to share their digital media : DONT FUCKING RECORD IT. Thats realy the only way it will ever stop the illegal trade om digital media. You dont want people to have illegal/FREE copies of your new movie ??&#8230; Too bad for you. Dont make movies anymore. Dont want people to have illegal/FREE copies of your new album ?? Again &#8230; too bad. </p>
<p>Im with you The White. If you want to be making money in the music biz&#8230;. its time to try something else. Cuz the Average Joe, like myself, doesnt give a crap about how much less money the bands and their superiors or subordiantes are getting. WE want to save OUR money. IF that means I have to illegaly DL music, and other such things&#8230;. Ill do it. And I wont feel the least bit bad about it.</p>
<p>Another thing&#8230;. if a band gets into the biz just to become super rich&#8230; its likely not a band Id be interested in anyhow. So again&#8230;.. FUCKEM !!</p>
<p>The Duck.</p>
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		<title>By: robin</title>
		<link>http://dorkandbeans.com/start-all-the-illegal-downloading-of-music/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@The White: Miley Cyrus has all the talent of a syphilitic nut-sac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@The White: Miley Cyrus has all the talent of a syphilitic nut-sac.</p>
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		<title>By: The White</title>
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		<dc:creator>The White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike: Established artist may have nothing to gain from illegal downloading, but the fact is it is happening, and probably will not stop.  Think about the software industry and how prices soared because of illegal downloading. This will most likely happen to CD sales as well.  

I would consider ColdPlay an &#039;established band&#039; but I never listened to their music until they offered a free download of their latest single on their website.  Established bands can still grow their fan base.  The &quot;download fan base&quot; growth is just more noticeable with young bands.

As I said earlier the music industry is really changing, I think the bands that adopt a new business model quickly will have a see some major profits when it comes to &quot;Music 2.0&quot; (I though I made up that term but it seems it has been coined before).

@Robin: You stay away from Miley.  I&#039;ve got my sights set on you and their ready to aim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike: Established artist may have nothing to gain from illegal downloading, but the fact is it is happening, and probably will not stop.  Think about the software industry and how prices soared because of illegal downloading. This will most likely happen to CD sales as well.  </p>
<p>I would consider ColdPlay an &#8216;established band&#8217; but I never listened to their music until they offered a free download of their latest single on their website.  Established bands can still grow their fan base.  The &#8220;download fan base&#8221; growth is just more noticeable with young bands.</p>
<p>As I said earlier the music industry is really changing, I think the bands that adopt a new business model quickly will have a see some major profits when it comes to &#8220;Music 2.0&#8243; (I though I made up that term but it seems it has been coined before).</p>
<p>@Robin: You stay away from Miley.  I&#8217;ve got my sights set on you and their ready to aim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree. To an extent. The actual revenue loss hasn&#039;t happened yet. A lot of studios and labels keep showing PREDICTED earnings, not ACTUAL earnings. The truth of the matter is, workarounds have been happening since the late 90&#039;s to offset these prospective losses (the CD-R levee for example). They&#039;ve been keeping up with the times and technology as well; most recently we&#039;ve seen a $2 levee put on MP3 players and 10% on memory cards. These revenues go straight to the labels.

On very rare occasions do the bands actually rail against downloading, simply because the downloading mostly hurts the labels. Bands make their money from touring (as you said), meager per diems for airplay and sometimes merchandising. 

Since you posted their photo, let&#039;s talk about Metallica. They&#039;ve certainly been the most vocal about this, even going so far as to carry lawsuits against downloaders. They&#039;re also sizeable share-owners in Warner Brothers Music, so downloading does effect them via stock pricing. Musicially, they&#039;re uneffected. They&#039;ve sucked fucking balls since before the inter-web got popular with the kids and they&#039;ll continue to do so because they still get paid.

The only possible thing DLing music can do is hurt the labels. And that would mean less Miley Cyrus. Is this a problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree. To an extent. The actual revenue loss hasn&#8217;t happened yet. A lot of studios and labels keep showing PREDICTED earnings, not ACTUAL earnings. The truth of the matter is, workarounds have been happening since the late 90&#8242;s to offset these prospective losses (the CD-R levee for example). They&#8217;ve been keeping up with the times and technology as well; most recently we&#8217;ve seen a $2 levee put on MP3 players and 10% on memory cards. These revenues go straight to the labels.</p>
<p>On very rare occasions do the bands actually rail against downloading, simply because the downloading mostly hurts the labels. Bands make their money from touring (as you said), meager per diems for airplay and sometimes merchandising. </p>
<p>Since you posted their photo, let&#8217;s talk about Metallica. They&#8217;ve certainly been the most vocal about this, even going so far as to carry lawsuits against downloaders. They&#8217;re also sizeable share-owners in Warner Brothers Music, so downloading does effect them via stock pricing. Musicially, they&#8217;re uneffected. They&#8217;ve sucked fucking balls since before the inter-web got popular with the kids and they&#8217;ll continue to do so because they still get paid.</p>
<p>The only possible thing DLing music can do is hurt the labels. And that would mean less Miley Cyrus. Is this a problem?</p>
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